OmarPHI215

Do you think Beans is simply bitchin, or has a valid gripe with Jay Z???

I think Beans is dead on with what he says about Jay. If you look back, Jay has shown how disloyal he is to his people. It reminds me of Puffy. Can you name one artist that Puff dealt with that is making it happen right now? where is total, Craig Mack, Black Rob, GDep, Elliot Ness, the girl groups, the boy bands etc...where are they now? Same with Jay, His crew is B, RiRi, and Kanyeezy for the most part.

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Bean's is a bitch, like so many of these fatherless black boys they need a hug and a father to hold there hand. Dogs in life there's one purpose get money, what if your man puts you on the block and now your moving your own work. You get popped and when you come home you ass out because when you was on top you was ballin out of control, while he made smart moves and invested his money, what now your a disloyal person because you made smart moves and thought about tomorrow, while he lived for the day. Same seniro with jay and your boy beans, and 50 can't help him out he just making a ass of his self.

S.L.

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I second that SL. I think this nigga is crying over spilled milk. I also think that people like beans are the problem in our black society.

All because someone is doing good you feel that they owe you something. WRONG. Especially this nigga, jay gave this nigga a vehicle to be a millionaire...what the f*ck else do you want from this guy? Handouts? That is how niggas are though..."you doing good" yeah, dummy! Cause i worked hard..why dont you try it instead of looking at mine?

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He needs to take his FAT ASS to the gym. Jigga don't owe this guy nothing. He's just making a fool of himself.

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There is validity in his issues, but that issue has so much dust on it at this point. Why didnt he speak on it wheh he had Jay on "Gutted" for his last official album in 2007. If there were problems stemming back to himn being behind bars, why have Jay unless he was using Jigga as well to build his own buzz. He also showed his allegiance by teaming up with R. Kelly knowing that he had issues with Jay. There's shady business on both ends, but one just happens to be more relevant than the other now which must have caused some envy.

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Yeah Justin , I think you put it best...im a Beans fan and I think he can rap anyone under the table in his style of spitting. The issues with him and jay seem a bit old. I do think they are valid. The problem is, I think the public views this situation as a get yours no matter what type of scenario. People make references to get money, get your own, he gave beans a chance, beans had bentleys etc.....My thing is what about loyalty. yeah yeah they from the streets and there is no real loyalty amongst thieve and all that gangster movie shit, but lets keep it real. I think Jay owes beans alot, not in terms of money but at least a conversation that beans is asking for. Beans admited that he don't want money or nothing like that Beans is hurt that the person he trusted etc, shows no loyalty to him. But at the same time, at some point you gotta be like fuck it, let me get at him by being succesful myself...Last thing, jay owes beans because if it wasn't for them PHilly boys Jay would not be where he is now...same with Dip set coming to the roc....Jay changed his style when beans brought the Philly swag to the camp...im just saying, jay z takes from people and doesn't pay homage....look at Jaz O

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Sorry man, I was with you until the part..."he don't want money, he wants to talk" part. If you believe that man, you are off base. This dude is broke and wants a check, Jay never signed this nigga, this is all dames doing. I really think Jay hardly knows this guy.


What the hell would jay have to say to him in person that could not be business oriented? Niggas like beans are a dime a dozen in the hood(not skill wise, attitude wise) and even in my own family. Get your own nigga, i don't here the other youngsters crying...matter of fact i think Chris is trying to release his new album.... and freeway is trekking with loon. Beans had to do this drama to get his name back fresh in our minds. I listened to beans when he first got signed on the roc and back then he was dope. I have not kept up much with the dude in the lat 7 years..until now! See... I actually like the dudes new music. I like drama filled rap! I like the fact he may be forcing jigga's hand...I just hate niggas with hands outs, and that has nothing to do with my choice of music...lol

OmarPHI215 said:
Yeah Justin , I think you put it best...im a Beans fan and I think he can rap anyone under the table in his style of spitting. The issues with him and jay seem a bit old. I do think they are valid. The problem is, I think the public views this situation as a get yours no matter what type of scenario. People make references to get money, get your own, he gave beans a chance, beans had bentleys etc.....My thing is what about loyalty. yeah yeah they from the streets and there is no real loyalty amongst thieve and all that gangster movie shit, but lets keep it real. I think Jay owes beans alot, not in terms of money but at least a conversation that beans is asking for. Beans admited that he don't want money or nothing like that Beans is hurt that the person he trusted etc, shows no loyalty to him. But at the same time, at some point you gotta be like fuck it, let me get at him by being succesful myself...Last thing, jay owes beans because if it wasn't for them PHilly boys Jay would not be where he is now...same with Dip set coming to the roc....Jay changed his style when beans brought the Philly swag to the camp...im just saying, jay z takes from people and doesn't pay homage....look at Jaz O

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State Property did lead the charge in each and every battle for Jay and most of his disses, outside of Nas and 50, were all duds...i.e. his disses to Cam'Ron and Jim Jones
In that aspect, he owes Beanie Sigel the respect of clearing the air as he was his top shooter

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