What's really wrong with hip hop?
Happy New Year to all. What do you feel is the problem with hip hop? i feel that Rap has taken over and makes new rappers want to get money, whereas Hip hop that I know, was about the art and the culture. What do yall think the real issue is?
(oh yeah have a safe new year, be careful in whatever you do)
(oh yeah have a safe new year, be careful in whatever you do)
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Permalink Reply by charlieblanko on -
I don't know if their is an issue. Rappers feel like they are in a recession because it's not that easy to be rich anymore. The net has destroyed cd and album sales. The only thing you can't fake is the show. I think rap is grown up...not dead.
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Permalink Reply by Jordan C. Alston on
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I agree. I do not believe that anything is necessarily wrong with Hip-Hop, I just feel that it is evolving, and has been since it arrived on the world stage. There is nothing wrong with growth or change, as long as it is measured and responsible.
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Permalink Reply by OmarPHI215 on
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Thanks for the responses...I feel what both of yall are saying and I do feel that in a general sense there is nothing wrong with it because it is changing and evolving and has more sub genres than any other form of music. I just feel like with all of the changing and morphing, hip hop is not getting the credit it deserves. Sure when it is used by corporate america it is great but I just feel like corporate heads wouldn't care if it didn't bring money to them. That said the "powers that be" end up controlling hip hop in the mainstream because money talks and bullshit runs the marathon...the point is, it takes aways from the creativity because frankly people want to get paid....that's the rapper...the hip hop emcee will rhyme just for rhymes sake. In order to ge that deal and be rich, one would have to succumb to the wills and wishes of the record exec thus taking away from their true self as an artist. I believe this is why we still hear so much negative bullshit on the radio
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Permalink Reply by Gbenga on -
yeah,i agree totally with you.....you sure have a point.
OmarPHI215 said:Thanks for the responses...I feel what both of yall are saying and I do feel that in a general sense there is nothing wrong with it because it is changing and evolving and has more sub genres than any other form of music. I just feel like with all of the changing and morphing, hip hop is not getting the credit it deserves. Sure when it is used by corporate america it is great but I just feel like corporate heads wouldn't care if it didn't bring money to them. That said the "powers that be" end up controlling hip hop in the mainstream because money talks and bullshit runs the marathon...the point is, it takes aways from the creativity because frankly people want to get paid....that's the rapper...the hip hop emcee will rhyme just for rhymes sake. In order to ge that deal and be rich, one would have to succumb to the wills and wishes of the record exec thus taking away from their true self as an artist. I believe this is why we still hear so much negative bullshit on the radio
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Permalink Reply by Jason Weintraub on -
Hip hop use to be a message, it use to be something people could relate to and could rely on in a hard time. You had Millions of people standing behind Public Enemy and what they believed in. When the majority of the radio songs are talkin bout "my yellow Lamborghini" its hard for someone to take that seriously.
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Permalink Reply by Priest on -
I agree with everything that's been talked about,but i will say this much, with real hip hop, by that, i mean hip hop that has lyrical substance not getting spins on commercial radio nationally,business smart cats like myself are gonna take the game back,and get our loot,and get spins,and get shows,and we won't let major labels keep us at the back of the bus.
My upcoming street album will be a breath of fresh air in 2010, it will touch on social issies, socioeconomic issues,the ups n downs of relationships,and an association wthin the music industry as well..
I'll be going in on a certain celebrity from the black community who's been in the entertainment industry who's a hypocrite, who's gone unchecked, and a racist government.
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Permalink Reply by Bryan J. on -
People always say that Hip Hop is dead. But the Hip Hop that I initially started listening to was some of the best. The Latifas, Special Eds, EPMDs, BDPs, early NWAs, Eric B and Rakims and others didn't get a lot of radio play. Back then, there was no such thing as "Underground hip hop." Hip Hop WAS underground. People didn't make tons of money off of it. It was just done for the art, the love , and the competition. Rap videos weren’t played on MTV (back when MTV actually PLAYED videos), rappers didn’t make a lot of money, and hip hop created local celebrities rather than international superstars.
While I can't stand a lot of the stuff that passes for hip hop on the radio, I understand that “Radio Hip Hop music” has actually become “Pop Music.” This isn’t a knock. I like some pop music and any music that achieves mass appeal (big ups Gang Starr!) actually BECOMES pop music. I mean isn’t “Pop” short for “POPULAR”?? It happened to Rock n Roll and R&B, and it’s happening to Hip Hop. Hip Hop purists just need to accept that fact.
Perhaps we’d feel more comfortable if we called it something different. How about, “Hip Pop???” Much like Darwinism’s assertion that man and ape descended from a common ancestor, Hip Hop and Hip Pop have an evolutionary relative but they still coexist as separate species today. I won’t venture to define which is the ape, and which is the human but that’s not the point. There are episodes on the Discovery Channel about both! (LOL) And we can enjoy them both for what they are without being disappointed at what they aren’t.
Once upon a time Hip Hop could dwell in the bright lights and big cities of commercialized music but that day is gone. There is just too much business involved and too many hands in the pot. So Hip Hop returned home. To the blocks and the basements, the small clubs and the corners and there are now millions of people worldwide who enjoy it as it was when it began. I’m encouraged when I see videos of Buff 1, 14 KT, Marv 1, Invincible, Now On, and others at local clubs or over in Europe rockin the mic to droves of people who nod in unison. I honestly believe that these “underground” artists would rock the mic whether they got paid or not. Sounds a lot like KRS-One and BDP (circa “fresh for 88 you suckas!!!”) to me. Hip hop isn’t dead…it has actually just returned home.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Stewart on -
There has been a transition where some "rappers" have tunnel vision and only see money at the end of the light and aren't too concerned with innovation or being creative, just what can get that dollar.
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Permalink Reply by theenemy on -
nothing is the matter with hip hop i us to think like that.i know now times change and if we dont change with them we get old.rap has always been about getting money so you can get the girls.dont let anybody tell you different.if you say why do most of the rappers these days have no real skills,then i could say i agree.but nothing is wrong with the hip hop i bagout 2
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